Nobody here has a problem with wars being started on lies.
It is arbitrary to consider a war started on lies just because you don't want it to exist. It is truly arbitrary to make up history as you go along, as if you had any real problems with members of your own tribe starting wars based upon lies in WWII, Vietnam, Cold War, Civil War, etc.
THe difference between you and Bush is that Bush can produce something good for mankind at a fraction of the cost of what the Left or Roosevelt in WWII ended up sacrificing.
That kind of economy and conservation of human resources is just something people here are against.
The entire ideology of the Left and the Democrats are a lie, but it is not as if this was ever a bad thing to the members of that tribe.
First of all, thanks for sharing. Second of all, allow me to "disagree" with what you just said in a more public place than a mere comment thread. I hope it's okay that I'm elevating you to the front page--is it OK? If we hurt your feelings by paying attention to you, just let me know. Third of all, wow. Did you ever receive anything remotely resembling an "education" in a "school" with "books?" Jeebus.
1. "It is arbitrary to consider a war started on lies just because you don't want it to exist. It is truly arbitrary to make up history as you go along, as if you had any real problems with members of your own tribe starting wars based upon lies in WWII, Vietnam, Cold War, Civil War, etc."
It's as if Bob Dole blurted out the phrase "Democrat Wars" and went back to looking like he just swallowed a turd. The problem with having a wingnut include "Cold War" and "Civil War" in this discussion is that you can't really get them to understand that Lincoln wiped out the South because they wanted to break apart and form their own country and we fought the Cold War because we thought the Communists needed to be held in check. Conservatives who CAN read history get that. The ones who can't think Lincoln raped Southern virtue and that we fought the Cold War until we could figure out how to abandon the Gold Standard. Nothing really makes sense here. Then there's the problem with Vietnam. Yes, the Gulf of Tonkin was bullshit. Unlike the Iraq War, only two Senators voted against going to war in Vietnam. Not enough voted against Iraq.
Now, I don't get why the wingnut brings up WWII. Does he want to talk about Panzer Divisions? They LOVE that stuff. They LOVE talking about the combat strength of XVII Army after D-Day and how von Whatchamacallit deployed his panzer formations to stave off a complete breakout. (no idea what that means)
What lie was WWII based on? The lie that Pearl Harbor got bombed? The lie that Germany and Italy declared war on us?
2. THe difference between you and Bush is that Bush can produce something good for mankind at a fraction of the cost of what the Left or Roosevelt in WWII ended up sacrificing.
Roosevelt crushed an entire Japanese empire--several million troops, thousands of ships and planes--as a second act. He fed raw material to the Russians, who ground up the majority of the German Army. Then he took back North Africa, most of Italy, and secured the Mediterranean before ordering the invasion of Western Europe. There, he joined our allies and smashed open the gates to central Europe and helped destroy a country that had conquered almost all of Europe and North Africa, fielded hundreds of divisons, tens of thousands of tanks, and came damned close to mass producing jets, scud-like missiles and even a nuclear weapon. ALL of this was accomplished in less than four years, start to finish. (December 1941 to September 1945)
Bush can't crush 25,000 irregular insurgents in a flat, desert country twice the size of Idaho. And he's had over five years.
3. That kind of economy and conservation of human resources is just something people here are against.
The entire ideology of the Left and the Democrats are a lie, but it is not as if this was ever a bad thing to the members of that tribe.
That sounds more like a juvenile taunt than it does an actual opinion. But does it do any good to ask a wingnut if they feel betrayed? Bush had everything going for him and he pissed it away. He failed, utterly, in everything he tried to accomplish. How can you accuse "the left" of being liars when there are almost daily examples of "the right" being populated by people who have said they're for family values and honestly and integrity and they keep getting caught with little boys, hookers, cash, meth and dildoes?
Anyway, thanks for commenting. Hope things are well there in Rawlings, Maryland.
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